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He needs to keep his hands free for when that monster comes along and takes his legs out from under him and he needs to grab the dock on his way into the water.

There are definitely differences between the two. Both have their own place in the water. I have a cat and probably will never own anything but. It is a 25 foot World Cat dual console, definitly not a race boat. Maybe 35 mph max. but then again, I did not buy it for speed. I bought her as a compromise between a roomy comfortable stable back bay cruiser(wife) and and off shore capable fishing boat(me). So far, it has been the perfect dual purpose boat. Going over most wakes, small to medium chop and normal conditions she is smooth and steady. I can normally hold steady or even speed up where many mono hulls slow down to aviod getting a beating. I have been out in fairly heavy seas and she handles this big stuff better than the mono hulls I have been in before. At rest, you can have all passengers on one side and barely feel the lean. This comes in handy when we have older folks on board that are not quite so steady on ther feet. Mono hulls will roll with the load more. Since the design is wider, there can be more deck space on a cat depending on which one you choose. Especially in the bow since it does not come to a point. The engines on my World Cat are spread apart enough to make it awesome for close quarters maneuvering with just the throttles. She will practically spin on her own axis. Docking and leaving a dock is a breeze. It also makes it great for taking cruises up and down the narrow lagoons where space is tight for turning around. Most mono hulls with twins have them centered and do not offer quite the same spin factor. The WC also has dedicated systems for each motor meaning each side of the boat is sort of independant for the operating systems. This basically means I will probably never be left stranded due to systems failure. I will have at least one motor to get me home again. This also means you have two of everything. That can impact the bank acount sometimes. OK, now we know that no boat is perfect so here are what I have found are the down sides to my cat. You do get some hull slap at slow trolling speeds when the water slaps between the two hulls. You can get some spray from between the hulls, known as sneezing. Usually adjusting trim and speed solves that though. On the drift or at anchor there is definitly snap roll issues. When taking a wake or wave from the side. the two hulls rise and fall sepreatly causing the boat to rock pretty bad sometimes. The boat definitely takes getting used to if you come from mono hulls. It does not lean into the turns, it stays basically flat meaning you need to hold on a little tighter on turns. Although with a little practice you can work the trim to lean it into a turn and make for a more comfortable ride. You really have to use the trim a lot on these, it makes a huge difference in the ride. Cats tend to bow steer when they nose down coming over a wake or wave. Another thing that trim and power normally handles pretty well. I am extremelly happy with the cat for our use. Others may chime in on how terrible cats are and some will chime in how terrible mono hulls are. You need to get out on the water and run both to decide which is best for your use, your water and your check book. Good luck in your search.

Never do. I always just use the regular lotion type but when I rest my arm on the captains chair's arm rest, it stains. Regular boat soap doesnt work and even Starbrite didn't touch it.

Isn't it a no-no to have flashing blue lights on the roof unless you are Coast Guard?

Anyone know how to get the sun tan lotion stains off of cushions and keep them off? Unfortunatly I am the culprit. My arm rests are stained. They are stained from last year so I may be SOL but if there are any ideas out there, fire away.

Out of curiosity, how many took advantage of this deal?

Not great shots but I hope to get a few this year. Assuming I can either get someone that knows how to take a good picture or just jump overborard and do it myself.

Batteries!? I am now thinking I may need to check my grille. The starter stopped working about a year ago. hhhmmmmm

As far as towing someone else, I agree with the taking their line and it would only be a short tow, back bay only. I would probbaly opt to tie them up along side anyway. I would not consider it if ocean side. If I need the tow, then I will use my line as I would not trust enyone elses equiment other that Sea Tow. Plus isn't their some risk of salvage claim BS to deal with if someone comes along and you take their lines? I appreciate everyone's input

More for peace of mind. I have Sea Tow but if I am in a bad spot and need out fast, I would like to have a line handy that can handle the job. Would not have issues with helping someone else out either. To an extent that is.

I am looking to store some dedicated tow line on the boat but m a little unsure of how much and how thick would be best. I am hoping to never have to use it but just in case, I want to have it on hand. The boat is a 25' World Cat 250DC. Dry weight is about 6000 lbs., plus hard top and gear and can carry 200 gal of gas. Anyone have advice on the size line I should be looking for and about how long of a stretch do I need? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Just a thought here. On a motorcycle forum I used to frequent(no longer exists now) the forum someone created a template to be able to print out business cards with the forum logo, name, location and a spot for us to input our own screen name. These were printed on normal business card sheet available at any ofice supply store. Everyone used them all the time. I had placed them on a bike or two and soon saw those guys on the forum. I even found one on my own bike when I got back to it at a show once. Might be a way to make the public aware. You choose the approved layout/logo and I will be happy to print off a few and hand out to anyone that seems worthy. Again, Just a thought.

I am sure they could find some scrap metal beams and weld in a few X braces that could keep them from folding up. Before they dump them that is. Maybe not, who knows?

Just cuz you can go fast doesn't mean you should. Great video and lesson learned. The boat looked real unstable to me even when he was just running straight. He is lucky he wasn't hurt more.

My point exactly. on the ocean floor, they will deteriorate and break down. That should be what is expected. Divers, at least most divers, already know that ging inside of any underwater structure is dangerous and could collapse. That's just part of the game. I just hate to see our tax dollars spent babysitting a rotting hunk of steel. Now they will have to pay even more to have future train cars cut up and disposed of in a land fill somwhere where it will do no good to anyone. Drop it, let it rot and forget about it.

OK, maybe I am unschooled in the art of Reef building but this seems kind of silly to me. They have been dropping retired subway cars and boats and all sorts of stuff down for artificial reefs for who knows how long now and have created some great fishing grounds and fish habitats. Below is part of an article that I copied and pasted. It states they are stopping the deployments of the subway cars becasuse they have sustained structural damage. So what does it matter if they are damaged? it's not like they plan to reuse these things and they are still doing what they were intended to do, right? What's the problem if they are no longer structurally sound? I would imagine they get damaged when they drop them off a barge into the ocean anyway. Seems like a huge waste of money to even be monitoring these heaps for structural integrity, they are basically lumps of steel on the ocean floor that fish live in now. There is no need for them to be structurally sound anymore, they will never carry people again, never run down a track again and are just skeletons for underwater growth to hold on to and fish to swim around in. Can someone shed a little light on this? The New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) recently announced that the state would postpone future deployments of stainless steel subway cars. During a scuba dive performed by the DEP’s Division of Fish and Wildlife in November at the Atlantic City Reef, four of five subway cars surveyed exhibited significant structural damage. In light of this information, another dive was executed four weeks later at a different grouping of stainless steel subway cars within the Atlantic City Reef. Of the two stainless steel subway cars surveyed, both exhibited similar damage. The cause of damage to the stainless steel subway cars is unknown and further analysis is required. The stainless steel subway cars were obtained free of cost from New York City Transit Authority and have been deployed as reef material on both the Atlantic City and Cape

This was last August off Sea Isle City NJ. It looks better bigger but I have no idea how to do that

Mine came with a belt clip and a small velcro strap. The strap slides through the slots on the side of the transponder and I used that to go around my belt. It held it fine, ran paralell with my belt so I never even felt it on there as I moved around all day. I guess a clip on belt loop would be OK but in my opinion the velcro is easier since you don't have to take your belt off to put it on and off. Just makes it that much easier to use. I wonder how much wear and tear the clip can take as the plastic is fairly thin. Might become loose over time or break.

He used about 1/8 of the botle on my cat. It just seems like too little. I am used to other waxes that you use A lot more of it. Maybe I am off base on this one then Thanks

I got my Autotether as part of teh group buy. Great pirce and even better service. I spoke to them a couple times before and aftter I bought it and was very happy with their customer care. Installation was rediculous. Actually there was no installtion at all. It took longer to read the instructions that to put the thing in. It took me 5 minutes to decide where to mount the main box and that was it. They sent me clips for all of the types of switches out there since I have Hondas but the kill swith is a Mercury style. After turning it on I walked all arund the baot with it in my pocket to make sure there was nothing that would kill the signal, then put the transponder in a baggie and dunked it over board right next to the boat. It fired off immediatly, just the way it should. Of course later I forgot to take the transponder off my belt and went to the car. Sure enough One of the guys at the dock came up and got me to tell me some sort of alarm was going off on the boat. He had never heard of Autoteher and now has one on his wish list. GREAT PRODUCT, GREAT SERVICE AND GREAT DEAL THANKS TO REEL BOATING! THANKS Wiley!!!!

So I had my boat guy detail the boat before launching this past weekend. I provided a new bottle of Rejex for him to use. They seemed rushed to get it done probably due to really bad weather for the past couple weeks. Heres the question; How much would you think one would use to wax a 25' Cat? The bottle was in the boat and it seems like very little was used. Does this stuff go a real long way or did he not do the job? I ran the back of my hand over the hull and it didn't feel like it had wax on it like a car does. I have never used Rejex before so I have no idea if it gives the surface that feel of not Any thoughts out there?

I did post on another forum(sorry Wiley) and got a few responses. It is the general consenus that it can be done with a bracket that mounts onto the ratchet mount and gets jammed down when you put the antenna in then places the GPS pod a foot away or so but it is not the ideal way to go. A few have said that the GPS pod needs to be 3' away from other antennas. A 3' bracket just would not work. I think I will be just moving it to a new spot that is a few feet away to be safe. I hate to go drilling holes, and hope there is enoigh wire already there to relocate it but, the last thing I need is interference with the signal when I am trying to find my way back home again.

Hi Guys, I am installing a second VHF in teh boat next weekend. I have one already on the port side and on the starbord side is my GPS antenna mounted using the same type of ratchet style antenna mount. The GPS pod is attached to a 12" section of antenna mast and threaded into the mount I would love not to have to drill more holes in the hard top. Has anyone seen or used anything that would allow me to mount the antenna mast and the GPS pod on the same ratchet style mount? Maybe a bracket that hold sthe pod off to the side or something? Just wondering if it is even out there that would save me from having to run a longer wire to relocate the pod or drill more holes. Any thoughts or ideas would be great.

A company I used to work for provided coatings for one of the manufacturers of those boats. I was lucky enough to get a ride along in one. It was a test course so the driver knew what way to go. Good thing cuz these things are FAST! I don't know how the nav guy keeps up sometimes at those speeds and with all of the tossing around going on. Awesome video and awesome boats!

Good afternoon folks. I am picking up a handheld VHF for my ditch bag and have a technical question for all the electonic gurus out there. I am planning to make a shelf to store the ditch bag for easy access. The bag will usually remain on the boat all of the time. I was thinking that if I installed a cigarette lighter style outlet and kept the radio plugged in all of the time, I would always have the batteries at full charge. I would install it so I could grab the bag and it would pull the plug as I pulled the bag out. Will this damage the batteries by overcharging or will they be OK hooked up all the time?